Can I make the 2010 Mac Pro as fast as the new one?! - 2TB NVMe Upgrade
The decade old 5,1 Mac Pro's are still high performers when it comes to CPU and memory performance but the biggest bottle neck being the SATA 2 interface which offers painfully slow speeds compared to modern computers. In this video I am going to be taking this Mac to the max.
Just how fast can the storage in this old Mac Pro go? and can it exceed Apples new Late 2019 Mac Pro?
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NVMe PCI Card used in the video:
www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07HYZY7P2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
List of drives and PCI cards for Mac Pro:
forums.macrumors.com/threads/blade-ssds-nvme-ahci.2146725/
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you should install os on the new high speed drive tbh
I found an Asus pcie card that works great, I only have 1tb rn but have room for another tb to add
Granted I'm on windows.
Hey. Great question. My Mac Pro 5,1 is dood for music production. As it relates to your question even if it’s can run your software, as some point the software or even peripheral driver compatibility could stop your workflow. I just tried to install the Final Cut Pro demo. And it said no lol get compatible with Mojave.
What graphics card are you running? Looks like the Nvidia 980 range graphics card? Is it metal-supported? I have a GeForce GTX 980 ti but seems I can't run Catalina, I couldn't find any drivers for it...any recommendations?
900 dollaridoos...!?
I have a Thunderbolt Display hooked up to my 2017 MacBook Pro, but I think I might go down this route and buy a older Mac and upgrade the parts.
What CPU's and Ram does your Pro have? The configuration on the Pro has a major effect here so it would be nice if you provided all the specs for it. Thanks
what gtx is that at 3:00
If you threw them both off a cliff then probably.
Would you get more speed if you used a single slot GPU and put the NVME's in one of the 2 lower slots?
Impressive.
I think this graphics cards vent looks very clogged. It is of course bad design by motherboard manufacturer.
Willing to buy one.
Shouldn't you be running the OS on one of the NVMe drives?
Add rtx 3080 in it
Hi, I have a 5.1 cMP, 2x3.5 Ghz 12-core, 128 GB RAM, AMD Radeon VII on PCIe slot #1. Above the GPU card, in PCIe slot #2 I have a Syba I/O CREST SI-PEX40129 card with two NVMe 970 EVOPlus 1TB (latest firmware). I see that you are able to reach a read and write speed even at 2500 Mb/s, while in my case I can't reach over 1500 Mb/s. Can you tell me how you achieved a speed of 2500 Mb/s? Thanks in advance!
great video, thanks! do you know any alternative adaptor for a single NVMe ssd that is capable of the same speed you got in this video?
The one who owned that probably regrets throwing it away when he/she watches this video
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Man Why Am I The Only One With A Worse PC?
Hugh i wish you were my neighbour 😢 Edit: wow thanks for the likes guys i never got that amount before
6gbps is sata 3, sata 2 = 3gbps
The max pro 5,1
What did you do to have bootscreen?
I have a mac pro 5.1 with (Mid 2010) with 2 x 3.46 Ghz 6 core intel Xeon, 64Gb of RAM Radeon RX 580 8 GB graphic card and currently using OS High Sierra 10.13.6 Where and How can i upgrade to Majove ? I tried a patch and got this message : 1. MacOS Mojave Patcher Natively Supported Machine This machine is natively supported by Mojave; you do not need to use this patch. It can still be used to create a USB drive to be used on another machine. What do you suggest sir ? Thank you for your help.
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What speeds would you get if the NVME card was in one of the 4X pcie slots? I have a rx5700xt OC and it eats into my second 16X slot. So can’t use it.
I upgraded and it’s incredible. Think of what the old Mac costs compared to a brand new one. My computer does everything I need it to do and then some.
i would throw that thing to the garbage right away. The case is like made out of solid lead!! ruined my back carrying that thing at work. Totally ridiculous case! not the best one either. Anyways, I still cant figure out why you would ever get a Mac.....the hardware is good, but the OS is just crap, I rather have a complete OS instead of a half one that still tries to copy windows graphical shell but does a poor job. Makes no sense.
I would suggest you play a little trick to your PCI-e... put your IOCrest card in Slot #1... which is a 2X slot... move your GPU above.
Are those thunderbolt displays? How are they connected?
im genuinely considering buying the 2010 mac pro. this really helped :)
Try getting one with high sierra so u can get a gtx 1000 series card
Get it, its the best machine ever made.
he is really a expert of repairing technologies. keep this channel alive! keep up your good work. :)
What did you do about your GPU?
why do you need 16 FUCKING TERRIBYTES
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"This mac really need an upgrade" Me: wait a minute, i see 4 4tb hard drives and some kind of geforce gtx graphics card And yes this was in the begginin Also me: *laughs in intel core i5 and intel hd graphics*
Mac Pro mid 2010 support 1 PCEe at x16 and the rest is x4. The thing I don' get is how did you manage to have a graphic card install (x16) and still running the NVMe (x4) at the speed of 2550 MB/s?
In your opinion, what is the Lofi Girl writing in her notebook? 🖊️📖
The real question is, why would you? Apple is a garbage company. I can't even tell you who they're target consumers are but I'm guessing it's a group of people who don't mind spending allot of money on sub-par products that break down rather easily so that way you are forced to spend just as much money on the repair if not more.
You’re only using 8 lanes. With 16 lanes I’ve been getting 5600 MB/s reads since 2015. This video is using AppleRAID but with SoftRAID I can get faster I/O. seworld.info/will/fqrRs9nIb5KHlXU/video
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You need to use the GPU slot to get up to 6000 read speed with 3 or 4 in raid
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Can you modernize your Mac Pro to make it compatible with Big Sur?
The 2010 Mac Pro still looks decent.
Is there anyway to get Catalina running on an old Mac Pro 2010?
Most are a step above this now. Big Sur is now possible. I have Catalina and Big Sur running on mine. Google github.com/StarPlayrX/bigmac
Hi Hugh, can you share the link of the adapters that you are using for the Cinema Display Monitor?
This is like pimp my 2010 Mac Pro😂
I do really enjoy this kind of videos I mean old apple laptops&computers restoration
I have a Mac Pro mid 2010 in repair shop to fix the temperature sensor If it goes well, it’s good to see how you’ve upgraded it. Question- the original specs says to use 1 or 2 TB Sata drives. Do you think 4 TB HDs are safe to use. When I replaced an old 2TB with Western Digital 4TB and dusted inside, that’s when the fans went out of control, very loud. I’ve replaced HDs before, and not sure if I did something wrong. Any thoughts welcome!
You reached the upper limit of the Syba I/OCrest and not the PCIe bus on the Mac Pro. A Highpoint or Sonnet card would give you speeds at or near 5000/5500 in Raid 0.
How did you connect your apple 27" thunderbolt monitor to your 2010 Mac Pro? Thanks
Hugh what graphics card are you using? It looks like the 980 ti which I though is metal supported. If so how can you run Mojave?
Thats awesome. I just installed a usb-c card in my 2010 mac pro and test speeds are only 500ish. Why is that?
What display is that? Looks great, would like to get one.
Hi, can I do this to my old Mac Pro 1.1 from 2006? thanks, please write me at jrarg20013@gmail.com
Triple Apple-branded monitors is just mad.
solution: don't buy a mac
This mac pro is fucking great, easily upgradeable and you can dual boot windows 10
My Mac Pro is similar but I barely use it now thanks to not being able to upgrade the OS and therefore use the software I want (Photoshop and Final Cut) without a lot of hassle. Watching to find out what I can do...
Why does it beep on startup
Still the best macpro design
Doesen t matter that it is from 2010 i want a new dekstop or laprop or everything :((
To be honest I really like 2010 Mac computers. They at least have a headphone jack :)
That PCIe adapter is very expensive because it has a PCIe switch. Cheaper ones either has one slot or relies on PCIe bifurcation.
If you had bought two of those pci cards, ran one nvme per card and put them both into raid, i wonder how that would of worked out....
What's the point of upgrading your storage to NVME if you're using a Sata ssd as your boot drive
Whats the best graphic card you can fit in the mac pro?
Someone needs to build after market side case tempered glass panel so we can add some RGB stuff to it!!!!
Be cheaper and more useful if he bought $700 Mac Pro wheels. Lol capa
🖐✔👍⭐.
You’re a damn boss
Ah great upgrade choice, I have done the same previously and put in a Vega Frontier as the drivers are built in due to the Imac Pro.
Hugh - Thanks for this video. I have the same tower and I am now considering upgrading it.Looks like it will only run El Capitan OS, and nothing newer. Has this been your experience?
I bought parts for a new build that ran me about $1,500. For this price, I get an i7-10700, 64 GB RAM, 1 TB NVMe 3,400 MB/s, support for 2 4K displays on UHD 630 or 3 4K displays on the GTX 1050 ti. CPU is 65 Watts, video card is 75 watts. The case can be outfitted with eight case fans for cooling. I expect this system to run cool and run quiet and use very little power but be able to do some production work if I need it to do so. I looked into old Macs and you have the issues of needing adapters, using slower devices and the problem that the thing could die on you at any time because of a component failure. A new build gives you fast system bus, nVME on motherboard so you don't use PCIe slots, processors that are far more efficient and have far more headroom, not having to futz with video cards, and the ability to just swap in a newer CPU if you need more performance. I can use Windows or Mac for most of my applications. I am using an old MacBook Pro for the stuff that I want to or need to run on macOS. I will re-evaluate when Apple Silicon comes out - if they come out with a mid-tower for a reasonable price, I'm in. Everything that Apple makes except for the current Mac Pro has thermal issues. One issue I have with the current Mac Pro is that it uses 100 Watts at idle. I'm trying to build a green system.
I have one of the mac pro's from 2010 .I'm wondering what I can do with mine ? Now ,Whats next?
10 grand starting price 😂. Apple junk.
When i went online to buy more cpu, it's trying to sale it to me with a tray. Do i need the tray or just the cpu cards or whatever? My specs. Mac Pro (Mid 2010) Processor: 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Memory: 48 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 Graphic: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB Can i get more memory out of this mac? CPU?
I never owned a Mac Pro and I’ve always loved there look till this day 2020
WHAT kind of computer can't you buy for less than 10,000 dollars......
Not with that GTX card
Hi, is mac pro graphic card upgradable?
**yes**
*ok*
i use an 80gb western digital harddrive with windows vista and 4 gb of ram and it works fine for basic music production. i also use a segate harddrive in a parts pc
Sick
I'd love something like that for one of the dual Xeon 4+4 core 2008ish Mac Pros I have. I also plan to try and get an RX 580 to work on it - which will be interesting lol - even outside of Mac OS. I'd love Linux and maybe turn it into a server or Nas, but a gaming PC in one of those would be fuuuuuunnn....
the nvme drives you bought is PCIe-3.0 based, but your mac supports only PCIe-2.0, or even 1, idk, but I'm sure that it doesn't support a PCIe-3.0... each of these nvme drives provides speeds of 3500Mbytes/s for reading and 2500Mbytes/s for writing... but you've got a lover speeds even with RAID-0... you were able to save a lot of money on nvme drives of the previous generation an on an adapter for them, and now you will never get their real performance on this platform...
Hey Hugh... Can you make a video of an upgrade on the HP pavilion notebook Model 15 - ab290sa
I don't have a Mac Pro 5,1 but an OG G5 and I'm always telling people how capable and future proof it was, at the time. I've got good wifi, excellent bluetooth and, with tenfourfox, I pretty much browse the modern internet with ease.
That old MacPro hits PCIE limits, probably running in PCIE 3.0 X4 mode. You could try it in different PCIE slot.
Will this be able to support macOS Big Sur?
Did you need to update the firmware in the evo drives to get compatibility ? Do the drives disappear if you reboot ?
Watching this on my Evga SR-2 based pc is oddly similar. These things are still so strong today, thanks to the heaping size of cpu cashe and core count. Kind of a bit hilarious though the mac didnt get usb3 and sata3 standard and this mobo did plus overclocking lol.
Nice .....
I just got thunderbolt in my 2009 Mac Pro and it works with an eGPU. Much better now.
just how can you live without USB 3??
Good stuff
The 5.1 has PCIE2.0 limitation probably so feel free to buy the cheapest TLC NVMe disk available, trying to raid0 is an absolute waste of effort on these.Even after firmware upgrade it still doesn't seem to get true PCIE3.0 speeds.
What is the cpu in this? I have the option to buy a macbook pro with a dual core xeon 6 gb ram 1.5 tb hdd for 300$ is this worth it?